A Very Difficult Story to Write
December 13, 2009 UPDATE: More Intimidation?
“Motown”, one of the primary witnesses to the December 18, 2007 BRUTAL attack of Jeffrey Green at Riverside Toyota, (below), spoke with me this afternoon about developments this week in this case which was nolle pross’ed by the Floyd County District Attorney’s office earlier this summer.
According to Motown, Skip Welborn was trying to get in touch with him earlier this week, but Motown did not respond. He did, however, run into Mr. Welborn’s younger son, who was recently busted while buying drug over on Pennington Avenue, according to Motown, who watched the whole bust from his living room in his home on Pennington Avenue.
According to Motown, the young Welborn told him that his father, Skip Welborn, had called an employee meeting at Riverside Toyota this past week, to discuss this article, (below). The younger Welborn told Motown that the Welborns were really “messed up” that Motown had been talking, because ethey did not want hin to be discussing this on the street.
The younger Welborn also told Motown that he hoped that Motown understood that he had nothing to do with the whole affair, and that he did not even want to work at his family’s business.
I do not know how to get in touch with the young Welborn, and so I cannot get his side of the story, but my telephone number is 706-936-0274, if he desires to contact me and tell me his side of the story.
Motown then told me that another family friend of someone close to on some of the participants in the story, him that Bradley Williams had again threatened to “Whoop his ass” next time he saw Motown.
Motown also informed me that he had learned from family members that Steve Lanier’s daughter has called off her wedding to the assailant Bradley Allen Williams.
IF, this article led to that decision by that beautiful young woman, and if nothing else ever comes of the article, that in and of itself is gratifying- knowing that exposing the violent nature of someone may lead to decisions which will keep other innocents safe.
I thank God.
But there are those in the community who are still desperately attempting to discredit not only the article but the story.
A poster known to several websites locally, going by the name of “RomeGaSir”, began threads on two different websites about me, under his own name.
He insists that I accused him of being with the local District Attorney’s office. I did mildly, in tongue-in-cheek-fashion, allude to that in a response to one of his posts, because regardless of what topic ever arises on any website, in any thread which criticizes the DA’s office, RomeGaSir castigates the finger pointer.
I did not really believe RGS was with the DA’s office, but his response on my website as well as on RomeNewsWire and Rome Topix was so over the top, that I began getting calls from people in the community who suspect that he just might be.
RomeGaSir has known and shared,on severl websites, specific elements of various cases, which only those privy to a the inner workings of criminal cases would know. One such case was federal case, the Mexican Mafia murder case, which went to trial in January of 2007.
In this last week, RGS has become increasingly frantic about any insinuation that he might be with the DA’s office, and has almost become paranoid, insisting that I deleted one of his posts from my website, and now accusing me of having accused him of threatening to “out” someone identity on another website.It is Christmas time, and we had plansfor a good portion fo the evening, soturned on a filter which I rarely use, which throws posts into a cache for my later approval.
RGS’s post may have appeared to have posted briefly, and then been diverted to the cache.
I did not delete his post, and approved it early Saturday morning when I was checking my website and e-mails.
As to the latter, I did make a post this morning, that a some poster on Rome Topix had threatened, in the wee small hours of the morning, to “out” someone who has just recently started posting on my website. I then wrote, WITHOUT REVEALING WHO, that a regular poster to RomeNewsBYWatson.com had threatened to out identities of some of my posters before.
I never referred to RomeGaSir.
But this morning, on www.RomeNewsWire.com under a thread called “teresa watsons website”, found under General Discussions, RGS responded to two posters:
In a response to someone using the name “Mstrsgte8”, RGS wrote:
Mstrsgte8…….great to see you back………..I noticed you in teresa watson’s article but didn’t bring it up out of the respect I have for u………….u know if you dispute it, she’ll attack u personally, but thanks for confirming, just as I had suspected that the story is a fabrication…………She is now claiming I’m on topix threatening to reveal ronron’s identity……….add that to the long list of inaccuracies………….
Understanding that most people are stupid is the first step in predicting the fate of democracy – RGS
End Quote
In a response to a poster named “toosavoter”, RGS wrote:
“If we talk about em, they win”…………….lol………while I partially agree w u, mstrsgte8 is a listed witness/participant in the story posted by teresa watson………he is now saying that her portrayal of his part is wholly inaccurate…………just as I suspected and claimed…………my other suspicion is that the PI was no PI……………I originally said “whoa!!!!!! Don’t rest your reputation on a one-sided story that makes no sense and a convicted felon……………”…..but iwas then personally attacked…………….I’m sure ill have an apology by christmas……LOL
Understanding that most people are stupid is the first step in predicting the fate of democracy – RGS”
End Quote
I am not sure which witness RGS talked to, or thinks someone else talked to, but, while I have not talked to all of the witnesses I have previously interviewed for this story, I have talked to Motown, today, who assured me that my story was right on target.
He also told me that the Welborns know that he knows the truth, and that he is not afraid of them.
As for the claim by RGS as to there not being a PI, we believe it is smoke and mirrors by RGS – plausible deniability - as he is well aware that there is a PI, and he knows who the PI is. The PI met frequently with various members of the DA’s office, while working this case.
I now believe that there is a concerted effort by members of the Floyd County District Attrneys office to squelch this story, to discredit me in the process, and possibly to allow the Riverside Toyota Welborns to continue to obstruct justice.
This is a serious situation, I now call for a formal investigation of the District Attorney’s Office.
I am still waiting for the several member sof the District Attorneys Office to return my phone calls.
Teresa Watson
December 7, 2009
Editor’s Note: This is one of the most difficult stories I have written in the last two years since beginning this website. This story involves several people I have known and either been friendly acquaintances with, or whom I have been fond of from years gone by.
I have learned things I would rather not know about an individual who has been gracious to me, who has entertained me in his office numbers of times, to talk for hours about various cases I was working on. We have shared e-mails about various things, including Formula One Racing, which my husband and I follow enthusiastically.
This story also touches the life of a young woman, who was, back in the 1990’s, one of those for whom I cared in my capacity with the Darlington Lower School Extended Day Program – and I am fearful for decisions she is making in her life now.
This story raises very serious issues about the Floyd County District Attorney’s Office, at a time when I was hoping there was an unspoken truce of sorts. At least these events are not directly linked to DA Leigh Patterson, but to two of her prosecutors.
I know this story is going to offend some who are very powerful in this community. It may hurt some, whom I do not intend to cause pain, but who need to see the whole picture .I know this story will cause ripples which I will have to deal with for a very long time into the future.
But a grave injustice has been done to one of the weaker members of our community, and the situation screams for justice.
tw
I sit in the living room of a very modest, but immaculate and cheerful home in Lindale, and listen to Jeff Green. His voice is strong and clear as he tells me about the events of December 18, 2007, but because of the neurological damage he suffered then, his words do not always flow easily – they are distorted at times, and he wrestles at times to form the thoughts to speak what he has to say so that those of us gathered in his living room can understand them.
His right eye looks directly at me, but the gaze of his left eye is tilted at an angle, askew, as it constantly tears and runs.
Jeff Green is not crying, but the tearing effect is just one of many side effects of the devastating damage done to him when Riverside Toyota Employee Bradley Allen Williams used a monkey wrench to violently beat Jeff Green, who happened to be a customer in the Service Department that day two years ago.
And NOTHING has ever been done about that violent assault.
Earlier this year, a Private Investigator here in Rome asked to meet with me to show me a file and talk to me about a case he had been working for almost two years at that point. The gentleman, who asked to remain unnamed in this article, had already interviewed many witnesses, and had gathered criminal incident reports and doctors reports, in an effort to make sure that justice was done for Jeff Green, whom one witness I interviewed described as “mildly retarded”.
Jeff Green is not retarded, and actually seems to be quite intelligent. But he has suffered concussive damage through the years as a karate competitor and instructor. Like the Great Cassius Clay, (Mohammad Ali) Jeff’s demeanor was already affected, according to several I have spoken with, who knew Jeff Green before and after the brutal and violent attack.
Prior to the attack, Jeff was very childlike, trusting everyone, engaging even strangers in conversations, and those conversations often led to his expertise in the Martial Arts. But according to one witness of the attack that day in December, the spark and light has gone out of Jeff’s eyes. He is not the same, and he is frustrated a lot of the time.
But Jeff, who now must live with his mother, still loves to hunt and collect arrowheads. And Jeff still loves to talk about Martial Arts.
Such was the case two years ago when Jeff took his tire up to the Riverside Toyota Service Department, where his assailant, Bradley Williams worked then and STILL works.
Jeff had noticed an indicator light on his dashboard which indicated there was a problem with one of his tires. On the morning of December 18, 2007, Jeff first stopped in at Jim’s Tire Store, in Lindale, but was told that it would be better for the Toyota Dealership to handle it, since it was probably still under warranty.
Jeff went to the Riverside Toyota dealership where he felt at home, sometimes visiting with a couple of friends he had there, who worked in the Service Department. One of those witnesses has asked that we ruse only his nickname, “Motown”. Most of the other witnesses have asked and required that their names not be used at all, because they still work at Riverside Toyota, and each have insisted that they have been threatened with the loss of their job, should they talk to anyone.
“Motown” does not work at Riverside anymore, and is very clear that, like the other witnesses, he too was threatened by Skip Welborn not to talk to about the events of December 18, 2007. According to “Motown” on the day of the attack, after he returned from carrying Jeff Green to the hospital, and staying for several hours, that Skip Welborn said to him, “If you ever say a word to anyone, and I mean ANYONE, you will regret it the rest of your life”.
What was it that Skip and John Welborn threatened their employees about discussing with investigators or lawyers?
The Attack
As Jeff Green was waiting inside the Riverside Toyota Service Center to have his tire fixed, he was talking with several of the witnesses he knew, including “Motown” and several others, including Wayne Cramer, Mrs. Shay, Jeremy Carter, and others. According to the several witnesses, one of the service technicians mentioned to Bradley Williams that Jeff Green was a former karate instructor, and knew some really good moves. According to several witnesses, Bradley Williams, whom they each perceive as a “hothead” a “bully” and “mean tempered” asked Jeff Green to show him a technique called a “Fireman’s Hold”.
Jeff Green was pleased to do so, but as he began going through the moves with Bradley Williams, Williams, began striking Jeff Green in the face and head with a monkey wrench. According to witnesses, all hell broke lose, and everyone started screaming and running at the blood, gore and violence.
Someone summoned Skip Welborn, owner and manager of Riverside Toyota, to the scene, and Welborn instructed “Motown” to drive Jeff Green to the hospital. Witnesses who wanted to call the police were prohibited from doing so.
Motown, becomes emotional when he talks about the ride to the hospital and the several hours in the ER. He admits that the gore was so extreme and the ensuing hours at the ER so traumatic, watching his friend code twice, that he spoken many times to a minister about it and his guilt and anger over having worked for a company which has tried to silence the witnesses and prevent a real investigation.
Motown explains that as he drove Jeff Green to the hospital, Green was going in and out of consciousness. According to Motown, Jeff’s eyeball was protruding out of its socket, and blood was everywhere. This seems to be confirmed by the extensive doctors reports I have read, from the immediate treatment and subsequent multiple surgeries to repair Jeff Green’s eye socket and entire left side of his face. In fact, almost the entire left side of his face was pulverized, and titanium plates had to be used to restructure it.
I have seen the pictures.
The Devastating Injuries
Hamilton Dixon and Lawrence M. Arkin performed the first round of surgeries, on December 21 and December 23, 2007, having had to wait for some of the swelling to subside, to better evaluate the damage.
According to Dr. Dixon’s report, the left eye was proptotic, (bulging out), with nerve compression and medial wall orbital blowout. On December 21, 2007 corrective surgery included open reduction orbital blowout fracture, periorbital approach with titanium orbital floor implant, plus a Caldwell-Luc procedure to decompress the orbital floor herniation with a tarsorrhaphy to relieve the proptosis.
The December 23, 2007 surgery included a total ethmoidectomy on the left and sphenoid sinusotomy, (his cheek bones were removed) with medial orbital wall decompression and optic nerve compression.
Yet a third surgery had to be performed to stabilized Jeff Green’s face, because the damage to his bony structure was so severe, and so much had to be removed, that the original titanium structure had nothing to adhere to, and so a larger implant had to be introduced.
More surgeries in Atlanta, and therapy, as well as subsequent neurological evaluations by Dr. William Nagusewski, and the outlook is grim for Jeff Green.
Jeff Green’s vision in his left eye has returned to some degree of functionality, but he often suffers from double visions. But resulting posttraumatic headaches and post traumatic depression leave Jeff Green, according to Dr. Nagusewski, in a constant state of pain.
Most disheartening, because of the severe impediment to his eyesight, Jeff Green, who at one time toured all over the world performing Martial Arts exhibitions, as noted by Dr. Naguscewski can no longer participate in Martial Arts, the love if his life.
Jeff Green has also begun to experience regular seizures, as well.
Jeff Green’s quality of life was forever impacted that December day back in 2007. But for what? Why?
The Motive?
I asked Jeff if he had ever had an argument or altercation with his assailant prior to the attack that day, and according Jeff and other witnesses, they did not even know each other. But several of the Riverside Toyota employees talk about their fear of Bradley Williams.
According to them, on the morning of the attack, Bradley Williams had been trying to start fights with several of them, interrupting their conversations with each other, and challenging them to come “over the wall’ and let him “take care of them”.
Also, according to several of the Riverside Toyota employees, Bradley Williams had/has a very violent temper, and that the Welborns, who own Riverside Toyota, are well aware of his violent nature.One employee admits, in a tape recorded conversation, to being present when Keith Williams, Bradley’s father, who himself works at Riverside, warned Skip Welborn prior to Bradley Williams being hired there, that Bradley had a violent temper.
Even after being warned by Bradley William’s own father, Skip Welborn hired him anyway.
And, according to Riverside Employees, from time to time, Bradley Williams will threaten beat another customer. One particular incident occurred with a service customer from South Carolina. According to the employees, Williams did not like the customer’s attitude, and told others that would be beating him, too, the next time he came in. To the relief of the other Riverside employees, the South Carolina customer never came back.
Yet, despite this history, the Welborns not only refused to fire Bradley Williams after this the December 18, 2007 attack, they did not even suspend him from his job. Despite the brutality o the attack on Jeff Green, Bradley Williams still continues to work in the Service Department at Riverside Toyota.
But what of criminal charges for William’s attack on Jeff Green?
The Investigation
Motown tells me that when he arrived with Jeff Green at the hospital, there was a Rome Police Department Officer as well as Georgia State trooper present. He said that the RPD officer, Lamar Eason, did not seem too concerned, and indeed, from reading his incident report, it is obvious Motown nailed that one. In his report, Officer Eason writes that he “Called” and interviewed a Jeremy Carter about the incident. In his report, Eason identifies Jeff Green, the victim with the bulging eye and crushed face, as the assailant, Eason identifies witness Jeremy Carter, as the victim.
But Motown says that GSP Trooper Dave Allen was so concerned after hearing about the incident, that he called for a replacement to be sent over to the hospital, so that he could go out to Riverside Toyota and write a report. According to Motown, this trooper, now retired, was still at the dealership, and was in Skip Welborn’s office. Motown went on in to update Skip Welborn of the status of Jeff Green’s condition, and was able to hear the promises Welborn made to the GSP Trooper.
According to Motown, Welborn promised to suspend Bradley Williams immediately, without pay, and that after they got the bottom of things, might even fire Williams. That was two years ago, and Williams was never suspended, was never fired, and still continues to work at Riverside Toyota, exposing unsuspecting customers to grave danger.
Bradley Allen Williams has been arrested before, back in December 2000, and held for several months on Disorderly Conduct, Simple Battery and Family Violence. Charges were brought again in December 2007 for the attack on Jeff Green, and Williams was charged with Aggravated Battery – Felony. Nice. Just the sort of fellow one hopes their daughter will marry.
Which leads is to former District Attorney Steve Lanier.
Steve Lanier’s daughter has been dating Bradley Allen Williams, and is, in fact, according to family friends, engaged to marry Bradley Williams on Christmas this year. So Lanier represented Williams in these most recent charges.
Disturbing.
But between the Welborns threatening their employees not to talk, (is this not felony obstruction of justice?), and Steve Lanier’s ties to the District Attorney’s office, ADAs Hal Goldin and John Tulley have decided to drop all charges.
Back in May, after Motown had left Riverside Toyota, he was talking to some of his former co-workers about how things were going – about their fear of Bradley Williams, their frustration over Williams getting away with this brutal attack on Jeff Green, and how they also feared for their jobs if any of them came forward to do the right thing. In a tape recorded conversation, one of those witnesses told Motown and another witness, that John Welborn had told his employees that he had taken $10,000.00 up to the DA’s office and that the charges were going to be dropped, and Bradley Williams could keep his job.
Interesting.It is a reoccurring theme of accusationsthrough several DAs.
But Motown reported back to the Private Investigator who has been working this case, with the tape recording, and it the implication was, at first, ignored. That is until a few weeks later when the when all charges were dropped.
Former DA Steve Lanier, who was now representing Williams, managed to have the criminal trial continued three times over that last two years, and the last time the victim and suspect were gathered for a hearing, in front of Superior Court Judge Jack Niedrach, the prosecution and Mr. Lanier informed Judge Niedrach that they were close to a deal, ( a Plea Deal?), and so the case was continued yet again.
By the end of the summer, all charges were noll pross’ed. They have not been completely dropped, and charges could be re-filed, if the statute of limitations does not run on them.
In preparing this story, we have reached out to the DA’s office, to both ADA John Tully and to ADA Hal Goldin. They have yet to return our call.
I also spoke to Skip Welborn. Because we are friends, I suggested to him that he speak with his attorney BEFORE he made any comments to me. He was gracious as always and said that he would touch base with his attorneys that afternoon, and would call me back one way or another.
That was Friday, December 4, 2009, and I have not gotten that call back. But, that is wise. I would make sure my client keep mum about this sort of story as well.
I did, however, let Skip Welborn, Hal Goldin and John Tully know that Bradley Williams continues to threaten certain of the witnesses, on a regular and on-going basis, whenever he encounters these individuals.
Welborn’s Influence of the District Attorney’s Office
But I cannot help but wonder why the Welborns have such influence in the D.A.’s office. It was the Welborns, along with several other local investors, who managed to talk former D.A. Tami Colston into bringing a RICO case against investment banker Dave Pimper, years ago, despite the fact that the feds INSISTED there was no case, and refused to file charges themselves.
After Colston brought charges under a State RICO charges, Governor Barnes appointed Tami Colston to the Superior Court Bench here in Floyd County, leaving Leigh Patterson with a stinker of a case.A jury ultimately acquitted Pimper of all charges, but not before Dave and Amy Pimper lost everything, all because some investors were unhappy with their returns. The Welborns were some of those investors. If they want charges brought, the DA’s office brings them. If they want charges dropped or noll pross’ed, they get the charges dropped or noll pross’ed.
John Welbornwas one of two original leadplaintiffs onthe criminal case against Dave Pimper.However, theotherplaintiff dropped out before the trial, leavingonly Welborn.
Yet, according to records, Welborninvestedapproximately $450,000.00 dollars from the initial investment in1995, until the ofthe end of1999, when thecriminal suit was initiated. According to records, in those five years, Welborn’s investmentgrew from approximately$450,000 to almost $1,100,000. That is an average rate of return of over 18% a year.
Conclusion
So far, the District Attorney’s office has dropped the ball. With threats and intimidation of key witnesses by the Welborns, should this case actually be broadened to include conspiracy after the fact to cover up and conceal a crime – intimidation, extortion?Or, are the Welborns to important to local political campaigns for the District Attorney herself to take a look at these facts?
Will Bradley Allen Williams strike again?
Since seeing the pictures and reading the doctors’ reports, I cannot shake certain images I am having.I have known Steve Lanier’s daughter since she was a little girl at the Darlington Lower School. She is a beautiful young woman, now, who made some tough but good decisions a few years back. She has a young son, who is precious, and I keep wrestling with images of this beautiful young woman and her son, being rushed to the hospital with their eyeballs hanging out of their sockets, and faces crushed beyond repair.
I keep imagining that young man growing into the difficult teen age years, when kids often get smart mouths, being attacked by a step father who beats the living tar out of him, so that his face is permanently distorted and his speech forever slurred.
Anyone who could beat an innocent customer with a monkey wrench, so that the victim’s face could only be reconstructed with titanium plates, will certainly abuse again. Criminal statistics prove this out. Hal Goldin knows this.John Tully knows this.Steve Lanier knows this.
So, where is the justice?
Teresa Watson
Comments (31)
I have a few comments here…Jeff is a neighbor and friend of mine and this is the first I have heard of this. You did not mention that Jeff has had physical problems for many years, since long before 2007. In fact, he hasn’t been able to do martial arts and travel the country since well before December of 2007. Because of these points that I would consider important, I am hesitant to accept the rest of the story. I will have to talk to Jeff about it when I see him next. And by the way…Jeff lives in Rome, not Lindale. 
Dear JJ,
You did not read very well. I did mention these. I wrote:
“Jeff Green is not retarded, and actually seems to be quite intelligent. But he has suffered concussive damage through the years as a karate competitor and instructor. Like the Great Cassius Clay, (Mohammad Ali) Jeff’s demeanor was already affected, according to several I have spoken with, who knew Jeff Green before and after the brutal and violent attack. Prior to the attack, Jeff was very childlike, trusting everyone, engaging even strangers in conversations, and those conversations often led to his expertise in the Martial Arts. But according to one witness of the attack that day in December, the spark and light has gone out of Jeff’s eyes. He is not the same, and he is frustrated a lot of the time”.
Perhaps you have had concussive injuries to your head, too, which prohibit you from reading an article thoroughly.
In my article, I also quoted directly from the doctors’ reports who worked on Jeff through these last two years. Do you really think I would concoct all of this? Do you not think that the doctors or the Welborns would sue me for fabricating these “reports”. But if you do not believe me, you can certainly search the archives of the Rome News Tribune, for the arrest report by John Bailey.
You say you are a friend and neighbor? All I can say is, I am glad I do not have friends and neighbors like you. With friends like you, who needs enemies?
And, excuse me, but Jeff lives with his mom, and her home is in what I, and others, call Lindale.
tw
After speaking to another neighbor, was reminded that Jeff did, indeed, wear an eye patch for a while several years ago and mentioned that he had been attacked, but he did not go into details, and we never would have guessed it was anything like this. Jeff is a super nice man and I hate the thought that he has been going through this and we didn’t know it.
No hang on a minute…I didn’t say anywhere that you were wrong about anything, and I don’t quite understand why you chose to be so rude in a reply to my first comment. I did go back and re-read after I posted my 2nd post, and do see where it was mentioned in passing that he had issues before his attack.
As for where they live…I know where it is, I live on the same block. This is Jeff’s house and his mother moved in with him, and it is Rome. Lindale starts at the Pawn Shop on Maple Street at Gaither Park. This isn’t an important fact, but it is still a fact.
I only came here to read because someone pointed me to it as being about a friend of mine…I did not come to cause trouble and don’t quite understand why you chose to attack me in your reply.
Dear JJ,
Rude? You wrote:
“Because of these points that I would consider important, I am hesitant to accept the rest of the story. I will have to talk to Jeff about it when I see him next. And by the way…Jeff lives in Rome, not Lindale.”
Now you want to know why I am so “Rude” I have no patience for people who open their mouth and criticize BEFORE they have all the facts…accusing as if Jeff made all of this.
Why am I rude? I have seen the photos. I have seen the doctors reports, I have read the gruesome details. I happen to know that even one of the doctors was shaken at the brutality one human being could inflict on another. I have spoken to people who witnessed the beating, and who have been threatened.
One person might make up a story. To get a second to go along is risky. To get several corroborating statements, by people each of whom have been threatened with the loss of their jobs should they talk….
Perhaps before you start saying you are hesitant to accept an article, you should read more carefully and check out a few facts for yourself.
I will be “Rude” to any moron who impugns the integrity of someone who has gone through hell like Jeff has gone through, especially when the rich and powerful block their access to justice.
But you are right. Jeff is a Super nice guy. It has been very hard on him to accept his injuries, which are so debilitating. He is fighting hard to recover some dignity and control in his life.
tw
For the record, I would NEVER say that I thought Jeff made up anything like this. I have nothing but respect for him and for his mother. I just wish that this story had been out there since the incident occurred.
Dear JJ,
I sure wish it been out there as well. But the coverup runs deep. Skip Welborn’s wife works at the RNT. The rules are different for the rich and powerful. If any of our children were arrested for buying drugs on Pennington Avenue, it would be splashed across the newspaper.
tw
The corruption amazes me. How can these people live with themselves knowing that they are supposed to uphold justice? No where does it say uphold justice unless it is a friend of yours. What a sick group of people running and influencing this county.
Dear BF,
It is so disheartening, at every turn. But I am so grateful for the P.I. who did all the work, and then brought it to me when the D.A.’s office nolle pross’ed. I only had to re-interview, read the reports which he had gathered, and write the story. But this would never have been revealed except for his hard work. And, he wants no glory. I do not think he even has ever been paid anything. He just wants justice for Mr. Green.
tw
OK, Now finally the issue is coming to the light of day. Question is “What can be done” Who will help this man. As usual in Floyd County the Judicial system is covering for itself. In this case it seems we have an ex-DA as the attorney for the assailant who is getting married to his daughter, the daughter by the way is in the courthouse daily and makes many, many friends. She is really a nice young lady. I don’t know how much Lanier has to do with it as he is hated by the DA and his influence is on the wane. It is the Welborn’s who are swinging the big stick. But then again I thought their connection was with Colston, not Patterson. Patterson and Colston had a falling out a few years back but are apparently hanging together these days.
Are there No attorneys in Floyd County who have heard of Pro-Bono. Would it be such a terrible thing to use your talent and your good mind to help a fellow human being in need. The Welborns have proven that they can make things happen. Could someone please step forward and without a preconcieved notion of what is the right or the wrong try to help this man. It is near impossible to fight back against both Money and Political connections. Can someone prove that $10,000 was paid to make this go away. Many questions, Very few answers. What we have here is one more case of Rome’s so called Elite bullying his own employees and taking advantage of an unfortunate man who can do little with no assets. Wonder how many cars are being driven by some of those involved, Cars that belong or belonged to the Welborns’. What is it going to take to see Justice done.
Dear BE,
I drive a Toyota Sienna Van purchaed at Riverside Toyota. I have drive Toyotas most of my life. I will not buy another one from Riverside, though, unless and until they pony up and take car eof Mr. Green, including getting rid of the danger in the Service Department, AND encouraging their employees to cooperate with the DA’s office.
In the meantime, perhaps someone should let Corporate Toyota know what has happened. Maybe someone should let the boys in Japan know how Mr. Green was beaten within an inch of his life, on a Toyota lot, and how the affiliates have attempted to cover it up.
tw
Notice how detailed the story is EXCEPT for the assault……….anyone else here have their eyesocket removed while getting a tire repaired……………anyone else here bribe the DA then brag about it to the greasemonkeys in your garage????????????????? Statute of limitations does not apply once an indictment is had…………… 9riminal record of the alleged perp is included……can we see the records of the victim and witness………..???????????????? This story has a lot of holes………….
Dear RGS,
What? There was no criminal indictment that I am aware. IS there an indictment? He was arrested, and I have that arrest paperwork. I was not aware that the statute of limitations does not apply once there is an indictment. THAT IS GREAT NEWS, if there is an indictment. I know that I certainly could have taken the witnesses I have talked to, along with the doctors and their reports to a GJ and gotten an indictment. Easy - Peasey. If this was taken to the GJ, and no indictment came out, it is because the DA’s Office intentionally sabotaged the effort, to protect someone(s).
The assault is pretty well laid out in the story, RGS. Jeff Green obliges Mr. Williams in showing him a move or a hold, and in the midst of the demo, Williams begins beating him with the Monkey Wrench. There were many witnesses, but the DA’s office seemed not to be able to get them to talk. But the beating took less than a minute, probably less than 30 seconds…how detailed can those 20-30 seconds be?
They talked to me, or talked freely to the P.I. and “Motown” who were taping recording the conversations, and the DA’s Office was certainly made aware of those tape recordings.
Even the doctors’ reports make statements about it being obvious an instrument/tool/weapon was used in the attack. In one letter from one of the doctors, the doctor actually writes that he was expecting to have been contacted by some attorney or prosecutor by now, but that no one had done so. Sounds like to me that even the surgery team is stunned that the DA’s office has not followed through.
Did the DA take this to the Grand Jury? If so, did they subpoena the many witnesses to the assault? Did they subpoena the doctors to detail the brutality of the injuries…so that the doctors could explain how they know a “weapon” had to have been used? It’s in the doctors’ reports, if anyone was diligent enough and REALLY wanted to make the case to the Grand Jury.
So, what story is full of holes? What specifically is missing, RGS? I could take the witnesses I have talked to and the doctors and their reports I have access to, and get an indictment. Come on, our DA got a conviction for MURDER in the Sam Parker case without a body. She wanted that conviction.
Could she not apply that same diligence in presenting the Williams case to the GJ? If this case was taken to the GJ, and a case was not made, it means that the DA’s office INTENTIONALLY sabotaged the thing.
In his full report, Dr. Naguscewski explains that the neurological damage,done to Mr. Green, prohibits Mr. Green from detailing in chronological order and time sequence of any aspect of life during and since the attack. It is a direct and proximate cause of the attack, to put it in legal jargon you are familiar with , RGS. But the witnesses have no problem detailing. They even know who hid the Monkey Wrench. They all know, and the one who hid the monkey wrench has admitted to a couple of co-workers, because he is so remorseful of the damage done to Mr. Green. He actually has admitted that Williams “planned” the attack, telling him to watch what he was going to do when Green, who had left to go outside to get the tire, came back in.
You sound a little defensive there…are you protecting someone you work with/for? Maybe people were not thorough in their investigation, as a P.I. and a reporter? I have not attacked LP. I am hoping she is unaware that the ball has been not only dropped but swept under the rug.
Remember how vocal you were to everyone about how the feds had arrested the wrong two guys for the murder on Cunningham? You insisted that Josh Smith and Shane Rosser were innocent.
You were wrong then, and you are wrong now. We all get things wrong from time to time, but at least open your eyes and see the facts as they are. Don’t go into defense mode when regular folks with common sense, the kind that would be on a jury, can smell a rat, and understand that the Welborns are being protected by the DA’s office, when the DA’s office should be investigating the Welborns for their alleged intimidation of key witnesses… Obstruction of Justice and Accessory After the Fact. And because it is two or more allegedly conspiring to committ the crimes of intimidation….Conspiracy.
One more thing, RGS. An indictment, (and I am assuming because you work over there and have raised this issue of an indictment), may not have
a statute of limitations, but in the United States, at both the federal and the state level, there is a “Speedy Trial” requirement. If the DA’s office allows this to hang on indefinitely, and then brings a trial forward a few years from now, perhaps the issue could be raised that the suspect never had access to a speedy trial.
Now, that may be another aspect of criminal litigation which I am unaware. Let’s hope so…that a noll pros somehow makes the requirement for a Speedy Trial void. You would know better than me about that.
But like a good friend of mine says, JUSTICE delayed is JUSTICE Denied.
If the DA’s office can chase a Comic Book Store owner through several trials, I am guessing that for a man who was brutally beaten, almost died at least twice while on the table, (can anyone say attempted murder?), the DA’s office should go full force against that perpetrator and those who have conspired to cover up the crime by intimidating and threatening witnesses.
One last comment about your condescending remark about “Grease monkeys”. Not all of the witnesses are mechanics, nor do all of the witnesses work in the Service Department. If you and yours had done the investigation they were supposed to, they would know that.
tw
“WOW”
Is this the same romegasir that was just on another forum telling the people of Floyd County how to go about kicking all the politicans out of office?
If it is, Now that Teresa is doing what he suggest the people of Floyd County should do ( stand up against the buddy system) he is starting to change his tune again by taking her on with the holes in the story theory.
Dear RonRon,
Welcome to my site.
There have been, heretofore, only three issues RGS and I ever disagreed on, and on one of those, (Lorraine Lemming) he has made some caveat that she has served enough time, now. The other two issue were the Cedartown EMS Director situation a couple of years ago, and of course, as EVERYONE knows, he and I have usually seen the DA’s Office from two completely different sides.
But that is because I am on the outside looking in, with the rest of you, and he is on the inside, looking out, and cannot see the forest for the tress, so to speak.Have you ever noticed how vehemently he ALWAYS defends the DA’s Office and EVERY decision they make?
tw
PS – RonRon
I was contacted by another regular Topix Poster, “Scout”. He was livid that behind a post he had posted to the Lorraine Lemming thread, someone had come behind him and posted under another “Scout” name, calling me a shrew and other such stuff.
The real “Scout” shows up coming from Marietta. The fake Scout shous up coming from “United States”. The real “Scout has made that clear in another post, following the fake “Scout”.
But I know there is another regular Toix poster, at least on Summerville Topix, called, “What’sNewsToYou”. That poster always shows up coming from some place in Alabama. That poster has even posted on my website, and we have communicated a few times.
This morning, however, four minutes prior to the fake “Scout” post under the LL thread, a “What’sNewsToYou” posted, again, like the fake “Scout” from United States, not from their usual Alabama location.
Now, the real “WNTY” is very articulate, and when he/she is making a contrary point, is VERYYYYYYYYY funny doing so. This recent “WNTY” from the US is not as sharp and certainly or funny.
What do you think? Imposter? Has WNTY’s username been hi-jacked?
I have sent a message to them to learn. It may be that he/she really does disagree and have doubts about my story, and if so, that is fine. But he/she usually comes directly to me to make such a comment, posting it on my website.
There is a first for everything, though. I will let you all know.
tw
You imply I work at the DA’s office……………………..
1. Good idea to try to identify your posters……..
2. You’re correct, I do………….
3. You’re incorrect, I don’t………….
4. Other than intimidation, what purpose could you have to attempt to identify a poster who, while disagreeing with you from time to time, has done nothing to harm this website or yourself???????
5. I can’t wait to see you try to wiggle out of this one……..
Your own words: “You sound a little defensive there…are you protecting someone you work with/for?”
“and I am assuming BECAUSE YOU WORK OVER THERE and have raised this issue of an indictment)”
“You would know better than me about that.”
“he is on the inside, looking out,”
…………………………………………. Once an indictment is had, and I don’t know if it has or hasn’t, the statute stops…………….speedy trial is ONLY an issue if the defense asks for it ………………………. once the defense asks for a speedy trial, then the clock starts ticking………….it can’t be raised as a historical issue………………………………You have lots of friends in the justice department………………axe ‘em, they’ll confirm it………………………………………………………………………..
as far as protecting anyone, that’s laughable………..there is no “defense mode” as I know absolutely no one in the story………….Motown has never been to the RGS christmas feast…………….I am pointing out how quickly you’ve jumped to a conclusion simply because you want it to be true………………………………………………I find it very plausible that the alleged perp in this story is exactly what you have described, an ass and a bully……………………………………….but I can’t help but notice the absence of arrest history for your victim and “motown”…………….I don’t know if they have one, but I’m suspecting they do since you didn’t say otherwise…………………………since you use the arrest history of the perp to show his predisposition or intent to commit a crime of this nature, then certainly the criminal history of motown and the victim can be used to question the veracity of their recollections………………………………………………………….
Does this make sense? Man walks in and is pointed out as a martial arts expert……………..boy says “hey dude, can you show me a move?”………..man says “sure hoss”…….boy then beats the crap out of man with a monkey wrench………. Certainly something is missing from that story…………………………………….. as judge judy says “if it don’t make sense, it didn’t happen”………………………….
Finish the story with “TW does report claiming story to be the gospel…when poster points out that the story doesn’t make sense, she claims the poster works for the DA’s office in an attempt to say ‘hey, i know who you are so you better watch out’ “……………………I’m certain you learned that tactic honestly while visiting chattooga county and, just as the ones in chattooga county, feel justified in using it……………………….You have dropped the difficult process of proving your point and began the much easier process of marginalizing those who disagree with you……………..
You say I always protect the DA’s office and therefore must be in the DA’s office……….1. I suggest you bring those assumptions in to line with my belief that rosser was innocent……………………didn’t the DA’s office say he was guilty?????????????? hmmmmmmmmmm
2. I have discussed at length the details, legal maneuverings, evidence and opinions related to the Sam Parker case……..both BEFORE and AFTER it was assigned to the Floyd county district attorney…………………….don’t you think it would be inappropriate and unethical to do that publicly if I worked for the DA’s office?????????? Shouldn’t you demand an investigation as to why a district attorney, asst district attorney or employee of the district attorney’s office is making public statements about ongoing cases??????????????????????? LOL, I don’t think you’re that stupid……………I actually believe you are throwing grenades towards my identity in the hopes that some shrapnel will reach me…………good try
Dear RGS,
WOW. I rest my case.
tw
What is the statute of limitations in a situation like this? Is there anything that we, the general public, can do to help with the situation or to help bring it into the public eye?
Dear JJ,
Speaking in terms of Civil Litigation, Jeff needs an attorney. But he does not have the money for a retainer, and so no one wants to engage the Deep Pocket Welborns in litigation without money up front. He had one attorney stringing him along until a few months ago, when he decided he (the attorney) did not have the money to carry out all the depositions of witnesses.
BUT, it turns out that the secretary of that attorney actually works at Riverside Toyota, AND also gets regular referrals from Steve Lanier.
Our Judicial System is geared to Justice for the Wealthy or at least Comfortable and Liquid, both in civil litigation AND criminal.
I understand from RGS that once an indictment is had in a criminal case, then there is not statute of limitation. I was not aware of that, (funny thing, I am not an attorney and I do not know EVERYTHING), but if Williams has been indicted, then there is HOPE, at least for criminal prosecution, unless the case beocmes dead docketed.
tw
After reading this information, people can see a lot of things. 1) That people have WAY TOO much time on their hands if they are researching what other people are doing, who they are dating, and when they are getting married. People make choices and the choices they make are the ones that they will live with. 2) That people like to run their mouths when they don’t know all of the facts, but they assume they do which in their mind makes it all okay. 3) How dare you talk about someone’s child on here when they are innocent and are not old enough to defend themselves. His mother is a class act and takes very good care of her child and looks out for his best interest with EVERY decision she makes. As a parent and person, people all make decisions they may not be proud of, but at least they try to do the best they can with the choices they have been given and the options they chose.
Steve Lanier and his daughter are very good at what they do as a law firm and work very hard on every case that comes into their office. They may not win every case, but I guarantee you that they work their hardest to help those in need to the best of their abilities every time they step in the court room.
I can almost guarantee that you have skeletons in your closet, but you don’t see people digging them out on the internet and bashing you for the choices you have made in your life. The ONLY person that will get to judge me or anyone else is GOD and when that time comes I will worry about what someone thinks, but until then, you need to learn to get the facts straight and know the truth before you start bad mouthing people who have made choices in their lives that may not have been the smartest ones, but they were made.
Bradley Williams may not be a saint or an angel, but he is HUMAN and people do things that they are not always proud of, but you can’t change the past. He is a hard worker and provides for his friends and family the best that he can every day. I can only hope that pointing the finger at someone else for the things they have done wrong makes you feel like a better person because it really makes you look like a sad, depressed, person who has nothing better to do than talk about others to make themselves feel better.
Dear FRL:
Your faux moral indignation is laughable.
1. Please, let me assure you that many have attempted to flush out skeletons in my life, on this site and others. It comes with the territory when you get into the public arena….like, oh let’s say, running for and serving as District Attorney, or representing criminals in your law practice.
2. I have not revealed any of SL’s daughter’s skeletons. I am not even sure she has any. I think that her decision, like my daughter’s, is noble. I believe I made that VERY CLEAR in the story. Her life, like my daughter’s is richer for her decision, as is her family’s lives as is mine. I am blessed for my daughter’s decision. So stop trying to make this out to be some attack of the young woman whose name I protected and whose decision I openly applauded in the article, without naming it.
3. Steve Lanier has many skeletons, like most of us at this age. However, many of his include failures of his while he represented the citizens of this county. Some of those include looking the other way during his tenure as DA, and allowing public corruption to go unchecked. If you know about illegal activity, and refuse for your own comfort or political expediency, to do anything about the corruption, you are part of the problem. Political, Power Monger Cowards, in fact, are worse, in my opinion, than those who actually break the law.
4. Bradley has made mistakes in the past, but cannot change the past? OH PLEASE. Then let him be a REAL MAN, come forward, CONFESS and ADMIT what he has done, and take his medicine.
5. Now, how dare I talk about these things on this website? I am a citizen who knows what horrible things have been done to an innocent man. I am a citizen who wants violent criminals tucked securely away where they cannot beat the living snuff out of innocent strangers.
Steve Lanier is part of the problem, helping to legitimize a violent criminal, and not caring at all what the outcome is to his daughter’s or grandchild’s welfare.
Shame on him, and shame on you for attempting to make Steve Lanier’s part in this charade out to be something noble. I am guessing you have justified all of Steve’s mistakes and perhaps participated in some of them yourself?…/p>
Shame on you.
tw
I’ll try to do a better investigation next time……..or I’ll walk to the office next to me and tell the DA to do something about this…………..I apologize for my corrupt ways……
Dear RGS,
What?
BTW, no one has outed you. You have made it a career of defending the DA’s office, both here and on other websites. You may not draw a paycheck from them, or answer to them, but you sure work for them, metaphorically.
And I have NEVER accused you of being corrupt. Blind loyalty is your downfall. You are your own worse enemy.
tw
PS - RGS, someone called me just now and said that you have posted a comment on RNW. I want to go on the record here and now and say that I have NEVER known you by any e-mail address other than this one which you use to post here. You mention getting two e-mails to another of your addresses, which you list on RNW as RomeGaSir@yahoo.com.
I have to agree with you. I think that it is very odd that you got the two messages offering to buy your identity. Very odd, today of all days.
I would challenge you to post the e-mail address belonging to the sender. That should flush the cowards out.
tw
I still say the main thing is to flush out the truth of the matter.
It sounds like there are some people who have tried to do
that here. It doesn’t matter if the truth doesn’t sound plausible.
In my opinion, one must let the truth lead to, where it leads.
On a tv show, there is a network of people who
volunteer there work to identify bodies that the police have
given up on. At least on the show they do a more thorough job
than the police.
Dear John –
Precisely. Present the facts, and let the truth lead where the truth leads.
Almost two years ago, several folks had contacted me, one claiming to be in law enforcement, to tell me that FBI SA Bob Meadows, FCPD Chief of Detectives Tommy Shiflett and that team investigating the Mexican Mafia murders, had gotten it wrong when they fingered Josh Smith and Shane Rosser for the murders on Cunningham.
The info each gave me was very credible as an alternate theory. The facts were true and Extremely plausible. I contacted Major Shiflett to ask him, and he insisted they had very damning evidence, a lot of it, that would be revealed at trial, and which would prove their theory. He confirmed the certain set of facts provided to me, but insisted that those facts had been checked out and de-bunked, as many other sets of facts had been in that four year long investigation.
But what concerned him most was that the information…that set of facts I had been given, was known ONLY to Law Enforcement, and they wanted to know where I got my information. I protected each of my sources.
The morning of the voir dire at the federal building, I ran a story about the alternate theory. The “you know what” hit the fan at the federal building, and FBI SA Bob Meadows kept asking me to trust him. I kept telling him that it was not a matter of trust, but a matter of presenting the facts and letting the facts lead where they led, so that the truth could be revealed. I reminded him that sometimes, even LE get stuff wrong, and that if they had the full truth and facts of the events, it would be revealed and no harm done.
SA Meadows told me that whoever my source was had to be someone in LE, and suggested that it was someone who was VERY jealous of he and his team. That caught me off guard, because one of my sources, who indeed was in LE, so to speak, told me of his extreme loathing for SA Bob Meadows, causing me to have to defend SA Meadows to this individual in e-mails.
But that morning of voir dire, I told SA Meadows that he had to trust me, that I simply reported the facts, all of the facts, and that the truth would ultimately be revealed. After a couple of lively exchanges that morning, Agent Meadows and I came to an understanding.
Two weeks into that six week long trial, elements which blew holes in the alternate theory were revealed, and Josh Smith confessed to having been present when Shane Rosser brutally and coldly executed his two victims, who were pleading for their lives. It was an emotional day in court.
FBI SA Meadow’s Team’s facts held, and justice was ultimately done.
Present the facts, and let the truth lead where the truth leads – to resolution or to a hole which calls for more investigation.
tw
voir dire, I’ll be honest, I had to go look it up.
Dear John,
NO harm in that. I have to grab my dictionary or google a word or phrase quite often. It’s the stubborn ass who refuses to do that who is a fool, and never grows or learns.
tw
What makes more sense?????? Employee jumps customer for absolutely no reason and beats him down with wrench……..
OR
Black belt bully picks fight with employee who know the bully is a blackbelt so he grabs nearest tool to defend himself………??????.
If jeff can’t find an attorney and is a poor, teary eyed victim, who paid for the PI????????
What is motown’s criminal history???????????
Does Jeff have a history of using his black belt status to bully neighbors and family??????????
A long list of witness names are included in the story……did they all give you a statement or only motown and the victim???????????
How many attorneys are so averse to money that they wouldn’t take such a slam dunk civil case against a reputable dealership as the case portrayed in this story?????????
Did john welborn announce his 10K bribe over the intercom, in a company meeting or during private meetings with each employee of the dealership???????
Answers to all these questions would be pertinent……..some of them to try to understand why a person would attack a black belt martial artist for no reason, and some to evaluate the accuracy of statements given by jeff and motown…………
Dear RGS,
1. WHY - The question about why is in the story. I was skeptical at first, as well. In fact, so skeptical that I insisted on meeting some others FIRST. Witnesses I interviewed told me that Jeff had been up to the Service Department a number of times. Several knew him, and would always brag about his skills. Bradley Williams had told them that he wanted their friend to show him some moves next time he was up. That “next time” was on December 18th, and the rest is in the story. Bradley Williams told Jeremy Carter, to watch what he was going to do to Jeff when he came back inside the garage after checking in.
2. The only neighbors who have communicated with me say Jeff is a sweetheart. Even “JJ” who posted the other night, challenging me about this story, and saying that she was a neighbor and had no knowledge of the incident, in the end admitted, like each and every witness i talked to insisted, that Jeff was a “SUPER Nice Guy”. Her words.
3. The P.I. was so moved by the injustice in this case, that he worked PRO BONO.
4. Now, ONLY Steve Lanier, the witnesses and persons in the DA’s Office knew who “Motown” was. The first time I met him, he came right out and told me about everything - I wish the Innocence Project had been around then.
I also know all about how Steve Lanier tried to threaten and intimidate him into NOT TESTIFYING by “exposing” his criminal record.
But as I soon found out, a significant portion of the people the Welborns have working at Riverside Toyota have records. That is the nature, apparently locally, of many car sales & service lots.
Now, with your background, you know MAJOR federal and state cases are based on testimony of former felons every day across this country. Motown served his time, and has been on the straight and narrow ever since, as have several respected members of the Floyd County Community.
He is not some felon currently serving time and looking to cut a deal. He is standing up for the truth, because it is the right things to do, which is more than I can say for you, right now, RGS
Not everyone can intervene to have their DIU swept under the rug because they own a newspaper. Not many can get their sons out of jail with no news coverage after a Pennington Avenue drug bust. (I am sure that white boy’s case will be nolle prosse’d too, BTW).
What really disturbs me about your response here these last few days, is that you are becoming everything you say you hate. You are as bad as BLC when he posted under the name of “Steadfast” back when someone fired semi-automatic gun fire over my answering machine. He challenged me in an e-mail I was just re-reading today for the first time in a very long time. He challenged me about Ben Ballenger’s having been brought up on charges with the State Bar.
Well, like “Motown”, Ben Ballenger told me that up front when I first met him, too. Of course, it was BLC’s daughter, KCC-G who had filed the charges, and ultimately, Ben was cleared. (She used “Scurrilous” in her description of Ben Ballenger…I wonder who typed that for her?
But you are becoming the very thing you loathe. You are beginning to use the very tactics you criticize others for. What gives RGS? And how do/did you know about Motown’s record, unless you are either Steve Lanier, or someone from the DA’s office?
Now, I have never said to anyone that you were with the DA’s Office, and any comments I made yesterday were simply a jab because you have defended them in the face of extremely poor decisions, including this one.
But apparently, I hit a nerve, because your response was so over the top that some folks actually called me yesterday…nosey people who are desperate to know who you are…called me to tell me they had never considered it before, but after reading your response, they were convinced that you are indeed with DA’s office.
Like I said, you are your own worst enemy, and you really need to take a step back and look at the facts again. BUt when you keep revealing facts from cases that only investigative teams or prosecution teams know, then people begin to think and suspect what you do not want them to think and suspect.
tw
RGS,
Like I said earlier, he is a neighbor, friend and I have known him for many years…he is not a bully by any means and I have no unkind words for or about him. Black belt or not, he would not attack someone like that.
Dear JJ,
Thank you. The man I met was so dear that I hugged him when I left our interview. I do not hug strangers, and I do not hug most people I interview.
tw
No idea who motown is, but it doesn’t take a law degree to make the jump frpm “motown” to criminal………
I’ve already challenged you……if I work for the DAs office, then I was unethical for commenting on the Parker case while it was ongoing……….with all the evidence you and these people who call you all the time have about my place of employment, I will await a call to patterson demanding an internal……..
I have doubted a story that has no motive, no action taken, and still questions I’ve asked that you refuse to answer……I assume out of lack of ability…..
I’ve accused you of nothing other than a sloppy investigation, you know, tyhe kind we do here in the DAs office LOL…….
You can keep attacking and conspiring with dufuses who want to know who I am, …..I am not worried………..
I pointed out your mistakes in the legal definitions and stated my opinion, you however went on the attack……….personal attacks…….
By the way, why don’t those thousands of people who call you everyday ever post here?????????????
Dear RGS,
What question have I refused to answer? Please be specific. I have answered all of your answers, I think.
You are the ONLY One who sees this story as full of holes. It is classic. The only one who thinks I am attacking you is you. There has to be some reason that someone so vehemently denies anything has gone wrong.
And btw “MoTown” is a from “Mo” a childhood nickname, which a shortened version of his given name. How prejudice can someone be towards names?
Now, the ONLY TIME anyone has EVER called me, if you will read my answer, about your being in the DA’s office, was after your over-the-top response on Tuesday. And I NEVER accused you of being in the DA’s office. Until now, I do not think anyone since Bobby Lee Cook has ever cared who you were. Seriously.
You are as over the top on this one as you were on the Polk County EMA situation last year.
Step back and take a deep breath.
tw
ROFL……….anyone who can read and count knows the unanswered questions……. It’s okay though, u da boss on this site………. The victim should be reassured by the mass outpouring of sympathy and support from the four people who posted in support of him…………
U hav ur site back…….go find another boogeyman, I must return to my duties in the DAs office…………:-)
Dear RGS,
The Bribe announcement? If I revealed how and when that “announcement” was done, the employees present could lose their jobs. That will be revealed if and when there is a trial. Now, head back to the stage, Billy Joel, and keep up the farce. Why don’t you Scout out your audience and see if there are any winners.
tw
First let me start by saying how disappointed I am with myself , one for even reading this trash and two for sinking to this level and responding. I have met Mr. Green and in our conversation he revealed to me that he had been in a bad accident years ago. He told me that he had mental problems as a result of this accident. He said that if i ever saw him and he was belligerent or violent to ignore him because he can not control it. So yes I can easily see how a black belt with those types of problems could lose control of himself and attack a complete stranger who had no choice but defend themselves. As for Mr. Lanier you do not need to agree with everything he has done as with all jobs such as his former job with the da office you will never please all the people all the time. Like all cases there are two sides, this is good for you because you can pick a side and always have someone to blast one way or another. As for his daughter I still don’t understand why you brought her up in all this other than to illicit more of a response. She has nothing to do with the story. I will say this she is a great girl who is doing a very good job building a life for herself and her family. Hopefully she will not be put off with our community by having her privacy envaded like this.
Dear RL,
1.You are the first to come forward and say this about Jeff, and how interesting that you cannot even substantiate your claim by using a real name. I put my name on my accusations. The witnesses, although desiring not to have their name used in the press, have risked puting their names in the pot to testify if and when it comes to court.
Even if what you allege, under cover of anonymity, is true, you cannot counter the witness testimonies of those who overheard the PREMEDITATED plan by Bradley Williams, and the challenge/request by Williams to Green to show him the move. WitnessES – PLURAL.
2. Steve Lanier’s daughter is engaged to be married shortly to the violent Bradley Williams. She will be subjecting her young son to the violent temper of a cruel man who could not even refrain from beating a gentle and affected man.
I have/had a friend, a beautiful young woman, DeeDee Golden, in Savannah, Georgia, whose neck was broken by her husband when he was in a rage.
Brian and DeeDee had been my daughter’s first Youth Pastors at Southside Assembly of God back in the early 1990’s after Brian returned from the Gulf War. They were especially dear to me, as they came from the hometown where my mom is from, and had attended the high school she had attended decades before, (although rebuilt). DeeDee’s parents were/are neighbors of one of uncles and aunts, and used to swim in their pool.
Brian chose to go to seminary in Lakeland, Florida, and later was a Youth minister over in one of the Carolinas. He and DeeDee came back to Southside Assembly a number of years ago, and my ex-husband and his wife took them in, as they lived in a mansion, and had plenty of room.
Eventually, my ex and his wife provided a huge, four bedroom condo for them, but my ex was harboring a dark secret which he could not reveal, because he had dealt with some issues of Brian’s as his attorney.
Brian had been arrested for pandering there in Savannah, and he had serious anger management issue, and would become violent with DeeDee. It turned out there were anger management issues which had surfaced at the church in the Carolinas, as well. And my ex could tell no one, because he had handled the pandering incident for Brian.
About 5 years ago, Brian began having a relationship with a teenager in his Youth Group. DeeDee confronted him about it, and Brian began choking her, as he had often done, but this time, he broke her neck. It was late at night, and he left their young child sleeping in their Savannah home, and took DeeDee’s body, drove to Ft. Stewart, and buried my friend in a shallow grave on a trail he was familiar with from his army service days.
Anyone can read the story in the Savannah Morning News. You can serach by Brian’s full name, Eric Brian Golden. Google it, and you can read the horrific story.
The community lost a beautiful, dear young woman.
Their little boy, whom I had held often, as he was born during the time of the Gulf War when I still lived in Savannah, and whom my daughter babysat when she was a teen, has lost his mother through a violent death, and his father, who is now serving a life sentence for MURDER.
My ex-husband will always wrestle with guilt over a situation where he was doing the legal and ethical thing by remaining silent because of the attorney-client privilege, but wondering if he had broken that Legal Requirement, if DeeDee would still be alive. My ex has a wound which will not heal, and regardless of the long years of divorce struggle between us, it hurts me for him, and I wish I could wave a wand to make him see that there really was nothing he could do.
DeeDee, ultimately, was the only one who could have done something. But she kept silent all those years.
That, sir, is what I wake up in the middle of the night thinking about, knowing that Steve Lanier’s daughter is preparing to marry a violent man.
I am beside myself that this young woman I used to help care for at Darlington Extended Day Program, will end up in a shallow grave with a broken neck…or worse, her young son could.
Understand, Mr. Courageous?
If something happens to Steve Lanier’s daughter or to her son, their blood will be on Hal Goldin’s, John Tulley’s and Steve Lanier’s, John Welborn’s and Skip Welborn’s hands, along with their assailant’s.
Disappointed with yourself “one for even reading this trash and two for sinking to this level and responding”?
You SHOULD be ashamed of yourself for glossing over the brutality of what Bradley Allen Williams did to Jeff Green, and helping to justify and perpetuate VIOLENCE.
tw
Wow maybe the reason you have not heard any of this about Mr. Green is because you didn’t ask. You just leeched on to one side of a story like the parasite to our community that you are. If your goal on this site is investigative journalism you do a poor job of investigating. I think you would rather just be inflamitory. If you had asked the people who know Bradley what they thought about him they would probably had told you that he is a shy individual who would do anything he could for those closest to him. But ofcourse making a monster out of someone is much more interesting. His girlfriend nor her child is in any danger. As for the lies and propaganda spred by you and your “witnesses” the Bible says that the Devil is the author of confusion so to me it is obvious who is guiding your key strokes. You are no more than the latest serpant foot you are not original and you will not be the last. For you this is all have your delusions of grandure and your paranoya will eventually overwhelm you and lead you down the same path as her. Good luck to you in the future I hope you are able to over come your demons and become a PRODUCTIVE member of our community. GOD BLESS.
Dear RL,
WOW, did you happen to read where I called both ADA John Tulley and ADA Hal Goldin, AND Skip Welborn to get the other side of the story?
Did you read how neither prosecutor even returned my phone calls, and Skip talked briefly, then told me he was going to see his attorney, and would call me back either way, but then NEVER did?
Did you miss that, or did you IGNORE the fact that I TRIED to get any other side of the story which might be out there?
Did you read the whole story?
BTW - The Bible talks about public officials who take a gift to their breast to distort justice, too.
Have you ever noticed that guilty people start quoting Bible Verses on Forgiveness, demanding it from others, when they have no other defense?
I have presented FACTS, and I do not feel guilty, at all. I have a responsibility to this community, not to any single person or group of people.
tw
T.W. I tried to email you with some information I have. The server rejected my email.
Dear NR,
I will e-mail. Ever since BLC had 1&1 take my site down back in February/March, the e-mail does not work.
tw
OKAY, NR, I just e-mailed you from my personal e-mail address, but as I ask in the e-mail, PLEASE keep my personal e-mail address confidential.
tw
Hi TW
YOU walk the walk, while others talk the talk.
There are people that like to tell everybody how do something, like vote the Good Ole Boys out of office, why won’t they run for Commissioner OR something. I guess to do that they would have to use their REAL name.
I guess after I post this, I will catch hell from my friends on the Wire and Topix. Get some rest TW cause they will be back in a minute or two.
ronron
Dear RR,
LOL! If Bobby Lee’s Boys can’t wear me down, I am guessing I can hold my own with the rest. I say “bring it on”.
Actually, it’s the really sharp women who can give me a run for my money. A strong, intelligent woman can usually appreciate the logic of an adversary’s view point, IF there is any logic to be had, and counter back without attacking personally, and still often turning the adversary’s own logic against them.
I have just come back from an interview with a couple from Chattooga County, on a story I am working on. The wife is a female outsider, like me, who knows how to think for herself and does not back down when the bullies up there start huffing and puffing.
But they will have to come here to fight. I do not post on other websites. I did one time, in the whole last two years I have had my own site.
That was on Summerville Topix, to DEFEND a business woman who was being attacked by someone who meant to link her to Bobby Lee Cook, simply because Cook is a regular patron at her business. However, I, too, have been a VERY PLEASED patron of her business. So, I posted under my own name…”I AM TERESA WATSON”.
I will say this. ON Tuesday, some posted under two familiar names to the Topix websites, both in Summerville and Rome.
There is a “Scout” who posts from Marietta, and there is a “WhatsNewstoYou” who posts from various Alabama locations. Both Scout and WNTY are big supporters of mine.
On Tuesday, after RGS’s responses here, someone posting under “Scout” USA and “WhatsNewsToYou” USA, posted cruel things about me.
The real Scout contacted me, and then posted an immediate response under the Lorraine Lemming thread at Rome Topix, because on that thread, someone had posted a question about me, and the real Scout had responded. Then pseudo ScoutUSA came on calling me a “Shrew” and the real Scout called him out.
I then saw that within the same few minutes of the pseudo-ScoutUSA post under the LL thread, a pseudo-WhatsNewsToYou had posted something on the Rome Topix thread about my website.
I contacted the real WNTY, who has posted here on my site before, but had not gotten a response from him/her until just now. He/she posted a strongly worded response to the pseudo-WNTY in the last hour, (since 4:00pm).
So, those who would distort truth and stir up trouble for no good reason have been called out, and as always, the Truth Eventually comes out! Then, small, manipulative and vindictive personalities are flushed out.
But, I have my own bully pulpit here to fight my battles.
Have a good week end!
tw
TW, is it possible that this story is incorrect???????? A: NO,!!!! RGS, I am 100% sure it’s accurate……….
Oh, ok, then why did you attempt to get the “other side’s version???? A: because I thought it would be cool to have an extra paragraph saying “THEY LIED!!!!!!, I had no intention of actually considering their side, because I was convinced after talking to rome’s philanthropist private investigator (yeah right)…….”
Oh, OK, would you personally attack a regular poster who was skeptical of this story??????? A: Yes RGS, that’s how I operate……you see, that poster was once wrong on a court case, and as we all know, if one is wrong once, they must be wrong on everything else……..(Please ignore my own past stories pointing out that I too have been wrong before)……and how dare someone question my truth detection capabilities….I have already contacted the DA’s office to let them know they have an insider on my site, they assure me itheir will be indictments of RGS soon………..
Oh, OK…….keep up that unbiased reporting………you now have ronron’s blind, unquestioning allegiance……LOL…….welcome aboard RR
Dear RGS,
1. Response to postulated sarcasm #1:
It is not a question of whether this story is WRONG or CORRECT. Most of the facts have been related to me by several different witnesses. The damage done on the date it was done has been confirmed by several different doctors, in grotesque description.
Could the analysis of what happened and the perspective of why it happened be DIFFERENT? Certainly, there is room for that consideration. Like a Clerk in the Clerks’ Office said this week, there are always three versions of a story. There is “Her” side, “His” side and “the Truth”.
Could there be another side? Absolutely.
But those who posses that “Other” side, and the “other” story are quite reluctant to say what that other story is. I gave them ample opportunity, so if no one who actually witnessed or was involved in some way, steps forward to say what the other story is, than how am I suppose to present it?
Unless you are willing to go on record saying that you speak for the DA’s office or for the assailant, or for Riverside Toyota, then we can only speculate on the given set of facts.
But Wrong? NO. That is not the correct question.
2. Response to postulated sarcasm #2:
You are right that you have been right about most case outcomes, but most of these cases were cases controlled by the Floyd County DA’s office in some way or another.
The one case you were wrong about was a case handled by the feds. You knew a lot of the details not known well to those outside of LE, almost as if you had seen the whole file, but were not privy to the strategy sessions, which would have been the Federal Task Force Team, ONLY. The cases you have been right about, you knew BOTH file specifics AND strategy. The one case outcome you were wrong about, you knew case file specifics, ONLY, but NOT Key Strategy.
So, the questions would be, (if I really believed you were with the DA’s office):
WHY and HOW would you have had access to the federal file? Did the federal case you were wrong about somehow pass through the DA’s office, allowing you to be privy to facts but not strategy? (If I believed you were with the DA’s office).
I just am not privy to that sort of stuff. I just do not know how the mechanics of a federal case works, on its way to becoming a federal case, BEFORE the other county-other state connections became apparent. Would that case ever have been in the Floyd County DA’s office for your eyes, (if I believed you were really in the DA’s office), to see, read, absorb and then bloviate on?
3. Response to your overall obsession:
I do not know about others on this site, but I am really tired of all of your recent posts here being all about you. Don’t you have some threads going on over at RNW about how important you are and how someone wants to buy your identity? Go bloviate over there. Valid, SPECIFIC criticisms are fine. But please do not hijack my website or this story to make it all about you and some perceived personal attack of you.
This story is about a serious failure of our judicial system…of our local DA’s office. If pseudo-Scout, pseudo WNTY, PianoBoy or Lottery Loser want to post about how I have personally attacked you, then take them over to the website where they belong.
BUT PLEASE, stay on Topic, here, and leave the seventh grade drama at the door.
BTW, if I am so far off base in this article, why was Skip Welborn trying frantically to talk the Witness Motown into meeting him to “Talk” yesterday?
tw
RGS you don’t get it, do you?
IF (notice the IF) you are the same RGS that trys to fire the crowd on another forum, to rise up and kick the good old boys out of office and how nobody will stand up, why is it when somebody (T.W.) does stand up, you sit down?
IF (notice the IF) you are the same RGS that is on another forum, You say you go to Topix about every month to stir a stink there, is that what you are doing here, trying to get TW to take her eye off the ball and slow her down?
IF (notice the IF) you are the same RGS that is on another forum where people think you are a rock star, why don’t you show them how it’s done and not tell them how to do it, run for Commissioner.
Thanks for the welcome.
Dear Ron,
Good points and good challenges, but let us stay on point/topic here. The forums on my website are for discussing whatever article the blog is attached to. One is even welcome to speculate, ask questions, hypothesize and challenge. But let the comments, speculations, questions, hypothese and challenges be related to the article or issues which could potentially arise from the problems identified in the article.
Go for it!
tw
PS, RonRon:
I am fudging my own rule about staying on topic.
It is Sunday morning, and I noticed that someone has started a new thread about you on Rome Topix, threatening to “Out” you. I know that a regular Topix poster has threatened to out ManInBlack before, both on my site and on RNW. I find that very amusing since he is so concerned about being outed, himself.
Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive. And, in this case, there is a very lively weaver of webs.
tw
I pointed out the deficiencies in the story………..you then made it about me……….gotta get back to my DA’s office desk to post from my pseudonyms…………. You 3e always right and I can’t even get away with calling u a shrew or talking about your husband……everyone can see that HAS been my style during past disagreements………….. Once again for the stupid people….. I made it about this story, Teresa made it about me….. Its all there in print (although it does get changed everyday)……….. Read it for yourselves
Once again for the stupid people?
I guess that is erudite language or
is somebody using somebody’s name?
Dear John,
RGS thinks MOST people are stupid. His tag on the RNW website, where he just started a thread about me, says, “Understanding that most people are stupid is the first step in predicting the fate of democracy - RGS”.
That quote is his own, and that pretty much sums up his attitude about the rest of us peons and grease monkeys.
Wow,
BTW, RGS and I agree about something. A blogger on RNW mentioned a link about new legislation which the Dems are proposing, a new Press Shield law, but radicals are proposing an amendment to it which would criminalize blogging.The anonymous poster who posted that link, said that he thought this law might apply to me, soon.
The proposed law is dangerous, but it still protects legitimate news agencies and their employees, who post under their real names. I am a registered, licensed news agency and I use my real name.
The legislation with the proposed amendment would make what anonymous bloggers, like RGS, and prisoner#1 do, BUT I WOULD STILL BE PROTECTED.
However, despite the attacks against me sometimes, I cannot imagine a FREE NATION without the freedom to express ideas, thoughts and opinions about issues of public concern.
Making up lies, and slandering and libeling people are exceptions, but otherwise, any truly free society needs freedom of expression.
If the proposed legislation is approved with its amendment, no anonymous person could criticize, oh let’s say, the Floyd County Commission, or some judge’s ruling, or a legislator’s illegal activities with organized crime. IT IS CONTRARY, in its genesis, to the First Amendment and to later Anti-SLAPP code, both federal and state.
It is a very dangerous piece of legislation, and more than anything the Democrats have done in this last eleven months, (even more than forcing Card Check on Labor Unions Members, so that there is no anonymity in their ballots), this legislation would transform the United States to an essentially communist entity, where ALL NEWS IS CONTROLLED by the government. No more anonymous exposure of corruption by those in power.
The END of the UNITED States as we and the rest of the world have come to know it.
If this passes, we can thank good old Democrat Dick Durbin and Madame Feistein, which is really odd, since the Daily KOS, and extremely caustic and left leaning blog from Diane Feinstein’s district, which actually celebrates serious health issues of conservatives, and howls with glee when they die, would become criminalized.
FOX News has been warning us this was coming. Glen Beck has been warning us. Newt Gingrich has been warning us. BUT HAVE ANY OF THE BIG NETWORKS made a Watchman’s Cry about this? NOOOOOOOOOO.
Yet, President Obama has tried to marginalize Fox News and has actually made statements about Fox News not being a real News Organization, just like Bobby Lee Cook and his cartel members tried to say about me. Now, I may not be a Fox News, but I am legitimate, regardless of what BLC and his posse have ever said.
Check out the link Prisoner#1 was referring to at
tw
Hello Teresa
I have some information for you that I do not wish to talk about here, would you please e-mail me.
Dear BJ,
Will do.
tw
BJ - I got your e-mail.
I contacted you at 1:58:22 PM.
You responded at 2:17 PM
tw
After reading your posting, there are some corrections that need to be made. First of all, no changes have been made for the wedding of Mr. Williams and Mrs. Lanier. The wedding is still planned as scheduled to happen and all of those that know and love them are aware of when this is. Second of all, I can assure you that Mrs. Lanier would not base any of her life decisions on the submissions on a website, she has more sense than that! The thing that humors me the most is the fact that you say you are wanting to protect Mrs. Lanier, but if you are doing anything, you are hurting her by continually criticizing her and her life choices. I hope and pray that one day you will get justice for your bashing of people and their choices and when you do, I will be the one saying “Thank you God!”
Dear FRL,
Thanks for the update. But since you are an anonymous poster, and the source of my info, while second hand, was known to me, as was his source, I will not post a correction until I hear otherwise.
BTW, it is not Mrs. Lanier. Steve Lanier’s daughter is not married to a Lanier, that is her maiden name, and if she still goes by Lanier, it is “Miss”.
And, OMG, how could you possibly read any part of my article and say I am criticizing her. I have applauded her. How dense can someone be?
tw
Is this Bradley Williams the one that was employed at Capitoline Products at the Rome GA airport several years ago??
I located a picture of Bradley Williams on facebook (a wedding picture) and this is the Bradley Williams that worked at Capitoline Products several years ago. He worked in the plant, his supervisor has some problems with him not doing what he was told and told him to come with him to the office as they were walking into the office out of the plant the supervisor was in front of him and BW attacked him from behind hitting him in the head repeatedly 2 other men in the plant took him to the ground while his supervisor went inside to get his supervisor and when they let him up he ran. The police were called but didn’t do anything because he wasn’t there, the supervisor called his probation officer and reported BW actions he(BW) had many priors from shoplifting to assault. I said all that to say I can see him doing the things that is being said he did to mr. green. As far as I am concerned he is a coward and a bully. I hope that he gets jail time for his action.
Oh, dear God. Do these horror stories ever stop ?
Where is justice in north Georgia?
Is it all just a matter of money placed in the right hand?
I think I’m gonna throw up.